Saturday, December 25, 2021

i'm just retracing my steps, it seems.

does it really keep changing or do i keep finding points to edit? every time i check my notes, it suggests that i'm editing and re-editing, and it's not changing, but it's not sitting well with me.

i gotta fix it. this is a shitty use of my time, but whatever.

it's now updated here, and i have to be clear: the reviews posted here are not final until they're updated to this pdf document and, even so, i might change them.

i have some ideas regarding what's going on. i wonder if somebody else wants to pretend they're me, which is just utterly pathetic, but i think it's happening, nonetheless. i wonder if the book publisher wants to edit the material, and i have to interject - this is not a wikipedia article. you have no grounds to edit a review, that's ridiculous. this is my intellectual property, not yours. and, i wonder even if whoever is spying on me isn't obsessed enough with their conspiracy theories that they think they're countering propaganda.

i'm writing a fucking book, you inbred retards. and, almost nobody is going to read it. ugh.

it's a very frustrating feeling to be convinced that your writing keeps changing, and not be able to prove it. it's disorienting. but, it's also incredibly upsetting.

it's for that reason that i have to just keep plugging at it, because i have to make the same decision, in the case of either possibility. if i just keep missing edits, i have to fix it because it needs editing, clearly; if the writing keeps getting edited by somebody else, i feel a moral responsibility to push against it as hard as i can. 

but, i get the impression that this could go on for a while.

this is a recent update, with many minor punctuation changes (punctuation i don't use keeps appearing), some replaced words (words i never use keep appearing) and a re-ordering of the two pre-foundation pieces, as the context is clearer if i place the imaginary before the hazing (even though the order of publication is reversed).

so, this has been a very painful process, that has required me to read and re-read and correct and sometimes recorrect these posts, but i have a short version to post here:


this has turned out to be time consuming, and i wish i was further ahead, but this is clearly required. what i can say is this: either my initial notes required me to edit them rather substantively (which is not usually the case.) or whomever the fucking idiot is that is editing this requires an editor, themselves.

i don't know if that will stay stable.

if it doesn't, i'll have to fix it again.

for now, note that i'm uploading the specific file, rather than the appendix. i'll upload the appendix eventually as one file when the journal fills in more.

so, that was a wasted week, but it's necessary. so be it.

i'm going to keep at it until i get through it.

Friday, December 24, 2021

if you're curious, the actual major influence in terms of how i've ordered my discography is dwayne goettel, and his endless alter-egos:

Thursday, December 23, 2021

ok, i got that done.

i actually hope that it's useful.

i'm going to mirror it here, but i won't update this post further.

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this is a shorthand text discography.

inri #human titleproject
name
typedated to /
written /
material from
actual first
release date
re-releases date of last
musical
alteration
inri000cassette demo #1inridemo199619962013/20192013
inri001cassette demo #2inridemo199719972013/20192013
inri002 
lp000
inricycledinrimix tape1997201320202013
inri003inrisampledinriep199720132014/20191997
inri004fuck the deadinrisingle19982016-2016
inri005skatersinriep-single19982016-2016
inri006uselessinriep-single19982016-2016
inri007confusedinriep-single19982016-2016
inri008hey, godinrisingle19982016-2016
inri009i did your mominriep-single19982016-2016
inri010whyinriep-single19982016-2016
inri011nopeinriep-single19982016-2016
inri012i think i feel much better nowinrisingle19982016-2016
inri013
symph001
on sexual confusion in adolescenceinrihybrid double ep19982016-2016
inri014schizoid terroristinrihybrid double ep
single
19982016-2016
inri015 
lp001
inriinrilp199819982013/2016/
2020
2016
inri016eat my fuckinriep1998201320191998
inri017the harsh truth is that only 
stupid people wish for happiness
inriep-single19982016-2016
-----the souls that createvariouscompilation
lp
1998---
inri018circusinriep-single19982016-2016
inri019
symph002
teenage jesusinrihybrid double ep19992016-2016
inri020boogeymaninriep-single19992016-2016
inri021 
lp002
inrichedinrilp199919992013/2016/
2020
2016
inri022
inrijectedinriep
download
199920132014/2016/
2020
2016
inri023
lp003
inrimixedinriremix
lp
199920132014/2016/
2020
1999
inri024
lp004
inriclaimedinricompilation
lp
19992016-2016
inri025
lp005
inricitedinricompilation
lp
19992016-2016
inri026too coldinriep single19992017-2017
inri027gene-o's - a soundtrack for an
italian brakfast cereal
inrisingle1999201320191999
inri028pop music (a tribute to
carbon dioxide)
inrisingle1999201320191999
inri029
symph003
warninginriep199919992013/2017/
2019
1999
inri030warinriep-single19992017-2017
inri031liquifyinriep-single1999201420172017
inri032
lp006
inrimakeinricovers
lp
1999199920142014
inri033
lp007
inridiculousinrilp1999199920141999
inri034book it!inrisingle1999201420172017
inri035
lp008
ambient works vol 0inrimix tape19992015-2015
inri036let freedom ringdeny
everything
ep-single2000201420172000
inri037the curious george suitedeny
everything
ep20002014-2000
inri038ignorance is blissdeny
everything
ep-single2000201420172017
inri039
symph004
acidosisdeny
eveyrthing
ep20002014-2000
inri040curious georgedeny
everything
single2000201420172000
inri041
lp009
deny everythingdeny
everything
lp200020002004/2006/
2010/2014
2014
inri042
lp010
inrimoveddeny
everything
outtakes
lp
20002017n/a2017
inri043stuck in the middle of an alley
closing in on all sides
jjjjjjjjjdouble ep
single
200120142015/20172017
inri044the time machinejjjjjjjjjep-single200120142015/20172017
inri045j's adventures in guitarlandjjjjjjjjjep2001201020142001
inri046
symph005
the symphony of psilocybin
induced madness
jjjjjjjjjep-single200120062014/2015
2015
inri047the intersection of two identical
particles moving in completely
opposite directions
jjjjjjjjjdouble ep
single
200120142015/20172017
inri048to spin inside dull aberrationsthe cynicide
collaboration
ep-single2001201420172017
inri049me, myself and the time i
thought this was a good idea
rabit is wolf
(w/ sean)
ep-single2001201420172015
inri050existencejjjjjjjjjep-single200120142015/20172014
inri051give em hell harry /
strung out
ftaaep20012014-2001
inri052
lp011
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjlp20012014-2014
inri053
lp012
symph006
the waverabit is wolf
(w/ sean)
lp2002201420172002
inri054clarityrabit is wolf
(w/ sean)
ep-single20022014-2014
inri0559:46 outside the magenta boxrabit is wolf
(w/ sean)
ep-single2002201420172017
inri056timerabit is wolf 
(w/ sean)
ep-single2002201420172017
inri057
lp013
rabit is wolfrabit is wolf
(w/ sean)
demo
lp
200220022004/2006/
2010/2014
2002
inri058
symph007
trepanation nationftaaquadruple ep
single
200220142017/20182018
inri059the imaginary tour demorabit is wolf
(w/ sean)
demo ep20022014-2014
inri060atom's / taught to twist the
affected so low
ftaaep20022014-2014
inri061untitledjjjjjjjjjtriple ep
single
2002201520172017
inri062la la la larabit is wolf
(w/ sean)
ep-single20022015-2015
inri063
lp014
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj^2jjjjjjjjjlp20022015-2015
inri064flyingthe trivial
group
ep20032015-2003
inri065refractionsthe trivial
group
ep-single2003201520172015
inri066
lp015
electronic pieces in a primitive styleinricompilation
lp
20032017-2015
inri067
lp016
spokeftaaouttakes
lp
20032017-2002
inri068
lp017
period 2 update discjjjjjjjjjcompilation
lp
20032017-2017
inri069
lp018
tetrisjjjjjjjjjquadruple lp
compilation
20032018-2018
inri070
lp019
thrujjjjjjjjjdouble lp
compilation
20032015-2015
inri071
lp020
ambient works, vol 1-2jjjjjjjjjdouble lp
compilation
2003201520172017
inri072
lp021
orchestral works, vol 1jjjjjjjjjcompilation lp200320152017/20182018
inri073
lp022
chamber worksjjjjjjjjjcompilation lp20032018-2018
inri074
symph008
reflectionsthe trivial
group
ep200320032004/2015/
2017
2017
inri075
lp023
akousmatic performancethe trivial
group
live lp20032022-?
inri076all you needthe trivial
group
ep20032022--
inri077bedroom cassette demos epthe trivial
group
demo ep20032021-?
inri078
symph009
the lost symphonythe trivial
group
ep-single20032022-?
inri079
lp024
art show demothe trivial
group
alternate lp2004200420192019
inri080like divine amoebasftaaep-single20042021-2006
inri081
lp025
fuel true anarchy in the americasftaalp2004200420212021
inri082
lp026
2004 summer sampler lpthe trivial
group
mix tape20042004
inri083sandy hill updates lpvariousep2004
inri084
symph010
the interplanetary isomorphismthe trivial
group
ep2004
inri085pre impressionist jazz punkthe trivial
group
ep2004
inri086the spontaneous combustion of leonardo pisanocycles/
second
ep2004200420192004
inri087
symph011
xenophanesthe trivial
group
ep single2004
inri088{e}the trivial
group
2xlp2004
inri089cycles per secondcycles/
second
lp2005
inri090fragment to be completedthe trivial
group
ep2005
inri091impressionist jazz punkthe trivial
group
lp2005200520192005
inri092stranded noise guitar demosthe trivial
group
ep2005
inri093scholastic piecesjjjjjjjjjep2006
inri094demosproverbsep2006
inri095the crashtetrislp2006
inrixxxgenesis2007
inrixxxpercussive works2007
inrixxxshitzy guitar jam2008
inrixxxproverbs2009
inrixxxevil is a human construction2010
inrixxxgrunge song #314152010
inrixxxorb symphony2011
marion street demos2014
so, i decided that i'm going to split these reviews off into standalone texts by author, as well. so, there will be a nice little two-three hundred page asimov text coming from this, and i'll keep the formatting.

so, i decided i wanted to create a new page on the side (under pages) for that to keep track of them:

...and, then i had to create one for the discography, too:

i'm still editing the asimov review pages. everything else aside, editing is a necessary process. i guess.

Wednesday, December 22, 2021

yeah - let's go ahead and post this here:


it's just the journal section, updated to yesterday's edits.

it seems like i'll have to read through it very carefully every week, unfortunately. i mean, what can i do? this is life, in a technological dystopia - and if we weren't that pre-covid, we sure are now.

nsa? cia? csis? rcmp? google? kgb? i don't know - really. i just know i constantly get that feeling that it's been altered.

my memory for words is not as powerful as my sense of compositional integrity. i type so much; i forget large amounts of it ten minutes later. it's stream of consciousness, a lot of it. but, these are more written blurbs, and i'm developing the need to remember more carefully. am i too old to get that skill?

if i'm right, what can i do?

i have no suggestions. 

send me an email.
what am i doing?

i decided to consolidate the review section before i got back to the writing, and, dammit...

why exactly does it seem like everything's being edited? i don't know, but i know i'm improving the final outcome by "changing it back", even if i'm actually imagining it.

i've been over this before: if there's some unwanted editing going on here, the editor is going to immense lengths to (1) make it impossible to trace and prove and (2) insist that the edits revert.

it's the same general question of control.

and, i'm just not into it...

so, i've been rewriting parts of the reviews all day, unfortunately. they're better than they were when i found them, at least.

this space is not intended to be collaborative, and i can only express the most extreme forms of hostility possible towards anybody or anything that wants to interfere.
i'm getting more cryptic comments on this.

i'm behind. clearly. but, i've been quite explicit that i didn't start listening to what was called "alternative rock" until about 1993, or punk rock until after that. it takes some time to get there, too - there's going to be an evolution in taste, and i'm going to be thorough about it. 'cause this is about me, not you, and not them.

i turned 11 years old in january, 1992.

so, it's worth pointing out that i probably spent more time in 1991 listening to out of time than any other record and that i'd have nominated barenaked ladies' gordon as the record of the year in 1992, even ahead of automatic for the people.

....if you really need to know where my head was at.
if i didn't mention it, i intended to plug in kim mitchell's rock 'n' roll duty for that week's track.

kim mitchell was initially the guitarist for a somewhat obscure weirdo canadiana act called max webster, but by the late 80s had became a homegrown canadian aor guitar hero, known mostly for his sort of tongue-in-cheek, post-modern take on guitar rock - very much in the wayne's world tradition, and there have been longstanding murmurs wondering if there's some connection. i was pretty young. maybe it was just a canadian thing, to not take rock music seriously, when so much of the rest of the world was absurdly absorbed in it. but, whatever the truth, kim mitchell became known for these idiosyncratically weird rock songs about writing rock songs, most of which sounded pretty much identical to each other.

as an adult, i recognize the rather vicious goethe reference:

q: what is this? 
a: this is a rock song!

q: what am i?
a: we are rock and rockrolling!

q: where are we?
a: we are in rockland wonderland!

(those lyrics are actually for the follow-up single, not this one, but they're basically the same song. kim mitchell only has one song.)

it's all very silly, and very intentionally so - and it was massively popular in canada.

while i have also made some minor changes to the first three of these, i've been forced to rewrite the fourth repeatedly, because it seems like it keeps changing:

the fifth seemed ok.

if i'm doing this, fine, let's do it - let's catch up on the alter-reality posts, first. i'm writing through the fall of 1989, here, and my experiences in the first half of grade 3, at a new school.

Tuesday, December 21, 2021

i'm currently frustrated...

i keep going around in circles, and it's pissing me off.

i have to finish reading through these items and making sure they haven't been altered, first. it's not what i want to do; i want to have confidence that my writing isn't being corrupted, altered, misconstrued or edited. i'm not. 

again: whoever is doing this is pathetic. go away somewhere to die, please.
there may be somebody editing my book reviews. i don't understand this.

i'm going to have to make sure that i keep safe copies on external drives, and backup when i'm done.

so, i have to stop to undo any edits and back up all files. i'll let you know when i'm done and upload an uncorrupted version.

anybody that would spend their time editing somebody else's blog is wholly pathetic and should immediately kill themselves.
you think rome ended in 476, right?

that was a bad year to be a roman, no doubt. and, there were many more. but, that's just wrong.

the reality is that the roman empire, as a cultural and legal entity, continued to exist in an unbroken line until it was dissolved by napoleon, in 1806.

Monday, December 20, 2021

i've seen this labeled a thousand different ways, based on who wants to frame it.

but, the joke is that they're diggers.

look it up.

carthage was the name of the city, and phoenician is a greek ethnonym.

sources are scarce, but the few we have suggest they called themselves something like c'nuni.

canaanites.

spoken carthaginian is thought to have been similar enough to hebrew to have been mutually intelligible.
when the romans destroyed carthage, they didn't do it passively. it was intended to be permanent. they rebuilt it, but as a roman villa.

the story in the roman history texts is that they tore down every brick one by one, they salted the fields, etc. but, that was actually not that uncommon - the romans did that to a dozen cities, and the assyrians did it to babylon, too.

the romans intended to erase carthage from history. that's a different, more developed task, and a more difficult one, given that we were no longer talking about bronze age egypt (where such things were apparently routine). the roman project destroyed all written references to carthage that could be found. they translated all punic texts to latin, then burned them. they eradicated all records of trade throughout the empire.

carthage must be destroyed was not a physical statement but a temporal, historical condition.

so, our knowledge of what was a very important maritime empire in it's day is startlingly poor, by intent. and, it's long been assumed that the romans basically made this up.

i wouldn't take this as entirely conclusive proof of widespread sacrifice, because i've seen reports of similar sacrifices in italy, well into the supposed christian period. iron age humans throughout the world resorted to human sacrifice in times of drought, disease and famine - because they believed the gods were angry. i mean, what do you do, if you believe a god is going to eat you? you give it something to eat - it's a rational deduction, rooted in an insane axiom. i need more than this.

but, the fact that we can't answer such a simple question about such a powerful state reflects just how vicious the roman genocide really was, and makes other questions - like whether they circumnavigated africa, or even sailed to south america - that much more impossible to grapple with.

but. where did the baby eating jew meme actually come from, anyways? it's not where you probably think, it's much older than that. it comes from this longstanding roman accusation that the carthaginians sacrificed their children, in rituals that seemed a lot like the stories in genesis.

these are my expanded notes for the first couple of pages, just to start:

- in robots and empire, giskard emerges as an allegory of historical materialism, who guides the vanguard spacers into clearing a path for the proletariat earthlings to take over the galaxy. it's pretty neat, and pretty heavy-handed. that's the simple answer as to what this is about: the robot giskard (the technology) acting as the unseen, background force that delivers the galaxy into the hands of the galactic settlers, even if only via a few plot twists. the anarchist allegory holds, in that the spacer vanguard continues to need to be cleared for the proletariat settlers, and we now have the additional force of historical materialism, in the form of the robot giskard, which was introduced at the end of the last text (which is functionally really just an elaborate introduction to this more substantive one), acting via technological determinism, to accomplish the task. but, asimov also introduces a number of additional layers that overlap through many points of history. that needs to be teased apart through the course of this write-up.

- in terms of plot development, though, this book, for better or worse, is about gladia, even if she's rather roughly disposed of as sort of useless, in the end. gladia does redeem herself as a more likeable and interesting character, even if asimov is frequently condescending about it, and even if it is largely through the control of giskard, who uses her as a vessel throughout the text. asimov does let a few misogynistic tendencies show, but it seems that they're ideas he picked up later in life - there was really no sign of any such biases when he was younger. that's sort of disappointing, but it's real, and it is there. it seems to be sort of resigned, though. he seems to want to present her as independent-minded and strong-willed, but also seems thoroughly convinced that she isn't actually either of these things, despite his personal desire that she ought to be. so, this portrayal would seem to be more specific, in intent, than general. i guess these sorts of inverted, complicated relationships develop over time with characters that you spend 30+ years writing about.  if giskard is the hegelian "spirit of the age" underlying marx' concept of historical materialism, and what is guiding history to it's intended end point, gladia acts as the physical manifestation of that spirit through various roles - as heroine, as jane fonda style activist (something i'll come back to.) and as oratorically dominant politician. she didn't know she had it in her, is what she says. but, she was just a dumb terminal for the robot, that was, in truth, in total control...

- asimov misses the opportunity to present gladia as a thoughtful, existentialist thinker, and instead presents her as an (at least sometimes likeable) airheaded blonde that can't get beyond an obsession with her own sexuality. she finds longevity meaningless, but it's only because asimov decided not to provide her with any sort of intellect. she could be writing symphonies or painting masterpieces with her decades of time. she could become a roboticist, even. instead, the opening pages have her stargazing and essentially wasting her time. and, then she complains she's bored and lonely, after having done nothing with herself. while i'd rather read a book with a dark existentialist central character that is brooding over the meaninglessness of longevity than one about an airhead that just can't figure out whatever it is that she might do with herself, asimov is deciding to present one point rather than the other: in a hypothetical reality of longevity of this sort, gladias will exist, and they certainly will not appreciate the time they have, or know how to use it. asimov does, in his defense, also set up the intellectual alter-gladia in vasilia, so it's not like all the blondes are dumb, in the text...but the one it's really about certainly is. it's not entirely clear whether asimov intends to be forceful with this, in presenting an argument against longevity, or if he's just exploring the topic in an objective and disinterested manner, but my own takeaway is that the benefits of longevity are unfortunately going to end up lost on the mentally feeble, and that is indeed a valid point to make - you can give people immortality, and watch them use it fantasizing about porn, then complain that they gain nothing from it, and what can you do besides find a wall to bang your head on? immortality is no antidote to stupidity. so, it's user error, it's not a problem with the system. this isn't the place to insert my own philosophy, but my personal perspective is that it's the short lives that lack meaning, because they aren't long enough to do anything meaningful in; the only possible way out of what i'd consider the futility of finite existence is to extend lifespans by decades or even by centuries. i guess that, eventually, ten thousand years from now, i might run out of things to do. but, i have to expect i'd feel i'm just getting started, at the young age of 230. it's too bad that gladia gets bored so easily - that she can't figure out how to use her time. then again, she might find me painfully prudish, in my disinterest in what she considers to be the experiential basis of existence, but the difference is that i'm objectively correct - if you have centuries to live, and have run out of experiences, what's left is intellect. there's no real reason to choose one or the other, but if finding new experiences eventually burns itself out, finding new knowledge, or creating new art, never will. in choosing one or the other, if you must, you make the choice of setting yourself up for success or failure. at least gladia finds some kind of calling in the end, even if it's put into her head by the robot, giskard.

- it's worth pointing out that, while baley does not appear in the text, he does set everything in motion. this is quite an outsized role for an undercover cop to play in history, is it not? the basic silliness of elevating a detective into this sort of role aside, baley is the only person that knows of giskard's abilities for centuries leading up to the novel, and he is consequently the only one giving the robot orders. so, if giskard is historical materialism, does that make baley insert historical character...? i think the answer is an emphatic no. baley is a bad knockoff of sherlock holmes, and nothing more, and the silliness of placing him as the central point of history should really be called attention to for what it is. but, then again, isn't it silly to put any messiah in that place in history? however you want to parse it, from baley's instructions to giskard come the spirit of historical materialism, the laws of humanics, the zeroth law and, eventually, psychohistory. asimov wanted to unify this, and he did. that it's fundamentally silly is secondary to the point, other than to ask how he could have avoided that.

- through this text, asimov balances the need to meet market demand for an empty sci fi adventure novel (and this is not a detective novel in the sense the others are) with his clear desire to unify his universe, and write more substantive literature, to the extent that he was able to. i think he missed the mark in robots of dawn, and that he gets a lot closer to it here. but, it is still necessary to point out that the text is exceedingly plot-heavy. the difference is that there's something going on here under the plot, and there often wasn't in the robots of dawn. you don't want your literature to be too dry, either, or nobody (except me) will read it. it could be cut down a little, but it's a much more enjoyable read from my perspective, and i suspect it's probably exciting enough for less probing minds, as well. so, he hits that balance.

- in this text, asimov more deeply explores the ironic reversal of robots adjusting humans. the human-adjusting robot was created via a random adjustment by a human, of course - but then that robot spends centuries adjusting humans, who have largely given up on adjusting robots. in the end, the robot adjusts another robot, which is a symbolic breakthrough in the technology.

- list of adjustments made by giskard in the context of the allegory:
1) giskard adjusts gladia to meet mandamus, which sets the process in motion (p. 13).
2) 

- asimov introduces a zeroth law as a major subplot in this text by asking the question: how do you decide what is or isn't harmful to humans? i didn't draw attention to this before because i was focused on the marxist allegory, but asimov's robot laws are clearly quite influenced by mill's harm principle, which is an extrapolation of the old celtic code do as you may, but harm none. it is *not* jesus' golden rule, or a good samaritan principle - it is the logical negation of both these things. the harm principle provides for no concept of obligation, and for no concept of reciprocity, it is simply a statement that a body in authority can only restrict individual liberty in an attempt to prevent harm. it is a statement about individual conduct and really seeks to free the individual from responsibility to others: we demand no obligation that you help people, but we insist that you just merely don't harm people. as we are dealing with the liberal asimov here, this is no doubt the more appropriate reading, even if asimov clearly has sympathies with the collectivist tendencies in the populist progressivism of his youth. so, when can a robot interfere with human liberty? the answer is only to prevent harm - and asimov works that out via example, repeatedly. this elevates the harm principle to a proudhonian style social contract between people (rather than as a contract restricting the behaviour of the state), and i very much like that kind of thinking. asimov is very much describing perfect anarchism, with this, whether he realizes it or not, and even if he's imagining something more classically liberal. but, to be rigorous, one must also examine the places where the system breaks down, where the logic becomes blurry, where it is not clear what is harm, or how to order harm, and relativistic concepts of harm must take over in the void of ambiguity. that was always the point, wasn't it, in observing calvin and baley work the logic out? but, that's what's going on with this - asimov is finally coming to terms with the need for an underlying principle in the balancing of the other laws. he succeeds in developing it in a very subtle way, that eventually leads to what he's calling the zeroth law: that a robot cannot harm humanity, or allow harm to come to humanity through inaction. the first law becomes a special case of the zeroth law. this is his attempt to order these contradictions that develop on the boundary points of a society ordered by mill's principles of harm aversion, extrapolated to the individual level via the proudhonian contract, even if he wouldn't articulate it in those terms.

- his treatment of the zeroth law also finally takes the plunge into a total allegory of thermodynamics, where a similar zeroth law has been articulated, on much the same grounds. robots and energy are both completely governed by their respective three laws. there is nothing beyond them. but, both systems are clearly incomplete. i'm picking up shades of godel in the question of completeness v consistency, but it's vague. and, are the laws of robots incomplete or inconsistent? we must decide! we generally accept that thermodynamics is incomplete, not inconsistent. or, at least, we haven't found a contradiction, yet, and we lack the imagination to construct that thought experiment, at this time. so, we have the 0th law to fill the gap, in both robotics and thermodynamics. and, there is in fact a parallel in the logic, as the 0th supersedes the first, in both contexts.

- the spacers were previously described as a vanguard, while the earthlings were described as a proletariat. i found this pretty heavy-handed. that said, asimov's intent here is to merge this series with his other series, so he needs to bring in extra layers. the layer of the spacers as greeks was always there, but he exaggerates it through the course of the text by having the spacers speak of the earthlings as barbarians; asimov continues this historical allusion forwards with the projection of an earth-centered galactic empire, which clearly places the earthlings in the role of the barbarian romans, to counter the civilized greeks. obvious, right? except it isn't - asimov blurs this up, and i think the right deconstruction is that he's writing analogies on top of themselves, that he's mixing metaphors, that he's more interested in pulling out exciting story lines than he is in holding strictly to historical allusions and that he may have even changed his mind a few times as he was writing it, not expecting anybody to follow it, anyways. so, i should just draw attention to the allusions and contradictions, rather than try to build a unified narrative.

- so, somewhere early on in this text, asimov attempts to convert the spacers into romans and the earthlings into carthaginians, but it's never convincing, and it doesn't really add up. his portrayal of the spacers is just not very roman, and never is, not even after conversion. one could argue that he's trying to convert the spacer greeks into spacer romans via descent (in which case gladia becomes the greek and her 5th generation descendant, mandamus, which is a legal term ordering a lower court to fulfill it's duty, becomes the roman - a point that asimov was careful to clarify, so that nobody might think our grecian descended romans might be descended from carthaginian earthlings, instead), but it leaves the narrative with the glaring inaccuracy of the carthaginians being the ancestral race, which asimov no doubt was aware was false. rather, it seems that asimov just wanted to introduce the exciting story line of the earth being destroyed, and wanted to introduce the historical reference to...let's be honest: to be pretentious. it didn't really matter if it added up, or if it broke the allegory, or whatever else. so, this is sort of a problem if you read the text too closely because it never gets resolved, but it's easy enough to look past. asimov is pretty baldly bringing in the punic wars as a reference, but he does so in such a perfunctory and empty manner that i wish he wouldn't have - there's no hannibal, for example. there's no struggle at all. there's just a nutcase carrying out a secret plot to destroy the earth. in the broader arc of asimov's narrative, the spacers remain best described as overly civilized greeks, and the earthlings as the upstart barbaric romans that replaced them and went out to build an empire, and that will have to withstand asimov's apparent change of heart, late in life, as to the relative importance of carthaginian (that is, proto-hebrew) civilization to greek civilization - a point that is still very open, given that carthage was, indeed, thoroughly destroyed, along with almost all references to it, in history. our knowledge of carthage outside of the context of the punic wars is in truth so poor that we can barely say much about it at all. asimov may have taken a fair number of liberties regarding interpolating the importance of carthage, due to the absence of knowledge about it, and he wouldn't be the only person that's done that.

- it follows that the discourse between gladia and mandamus is one between greek and roman, and there's a historical debate underlying it, in code.

- the meek do not "inherit" (a term asimov uses frequently) the galaxy, the strong do. and, yes - gibbon is a clear influence on asimov, but the whole thing is again sort of confusingly applied. who are these various groups meant to represent? greeks? romans? carthaginians? surely not muslims - and surely not muslims. but, the ideas in gibbon are nonetheless thrown around here, and it's hard to know if asimov is doing so generally or with any specific historical allusions in mind. it would be reasonable, in some sense, to apply the logic in gibbon to the struggle between the greeks and romans for the eastern mediterranean, for example - you could write an essay about that, and have it be entirely cogent. the greeks fell into decadence and decline by becoming too civilized, and the militaristic romans took over - and that seems to be the first idea asimov had with this, if it wasn't his only one, or his last one (remember that this was written in the 80s, decades after the original foundation series, the three empire novels and the first two robot novels). of course, those romans were then conquered by the greeks from the inside out, who then became too civilized and decadent, and suffered the same fate as the greeks before them. but, it gets muddied up by all the outside references, and hard to pull apart into anything clear. maybe he even did that on purpose - maybe he's just building up contextless references as an idea salad, maybe he's reordering history, maybe he's stirring the pot. maybe it's a random historical reference generator. but, the most clear idea in the mess of ideas is the idea of applying gibbon to the roman conquest of hellenistic europe and asia, even if he attempted to blow that up, in hindsight. i think a more direct discussion of the influence of gibbon on asimov should wait until we actually have a galactic empire. but, this discourse is there - the spacers are weak and decadent and in decay, to be replaced by the more vigorous and warlike earthling barbarians.

- and another layer? the idea that the spacers place a higher value on individual life also comes up repeatedly (going back several texts, although i'd have to look up the exact references and i'm not going to - it predates robots and empire), which was an argument that liberal capitalists frequently directed at the communist bloc, who supposedly felt that life was expendable. so, based on that allusion, he seems to want to align the collapsing spacer society with the bourgeois decay in the capitalist west and the growing settler power with the rising collectivism of the communist east. while asimov is a known history nerd, the surprise is really that it took so long to develop a clear analogy between the east and the west, in the context of the ongoing cold war; it's not readily drawn out from any of his earlier robot novels, at least. that might seem forward thinking in 2021, but i bet it didn't in 1989; i bet it seemed like he missed the mark, on that one. in the long run, we're all dead, right?

- mandamus' first name is worth taking note of: levular. that is, he is named leveller, after the utopian socialist english political movement, which is no doubt why gladia describes him as looking like a puritan. i think what asimov is doing here is drawing an ideological continuity between mandamus and the medievalists, to bring back the same foe that he began with. but, it doesn't appear to get developed as well as it might have.

- likewise, amadiro is clearly initially presented in the previous text as of semitic origin. he's sort of the archetype of the jewish bad guy - something that seems so out of place in an asimov text, that it's enough to make you wonder if he really wrote it. and, that might ultimately be underlying his pro-carthaginian backlash, too. amadiro is the hook-nosed evil jew from the start, so what's he doing playing the role of the roman, in having carthage destroyed? if you are not cognizant of the depth of the roman propaganda against the carthaginians, you have to understand that it's the actual basis of anti-semitism in the west. the romans claimed that the carthaginians ate babies, for example - not joking. and, we can't prove they didn't, either; there seems to be some evidence that they might have (or at least might have routinely sacrificed them, abe and isaac style). so, how do you parse the anti-semitic tropes in a book written by a russian jew, as deployed to destroy carthage, which he seems to have developed an affinity for, on the ground that they're the ancestral hebrews? you can't - you can't at all. it's incoherent, as allegory; it's historical references thrown on top of each other and void of any order, it's mixing the pot. it's an author that thinks developing the plot comes first, and allegories come second.

- so, i'm going to draw attention to ideas as they come up, but i'm not going to hold to any specific allegory (besides the three meta-layers of spacer/greek/west and earth/roman/east) because, if anything, i think asimov may have been trying to jumble it up. 
this is going to be lengthy and a little painful. i'm both going to expose a level of sort of hidden genius here, and deconstruct asimov as sort of a hack.

listen: i'm a classical history nerd with degrees in computer science, law and mathematics. i started off in physics - a hard science - and have an undeclared minor in the topic. i'm also an anarchist, with a sympathy for marx (and no sympathy for lenin). now, the logic here is maybe a little circular, granted, in that i'm admittedly a creation of asimov, and that i have all these interests in no small part because i read asimov very young, but i'm nonetheless the perfect person to rip this apart.

i'm going to do this in point form first and then try to make sense of it after.

as mentioned, this text is actually relatively developed. asimov isn't known for writing what might be called high literature, but his late consolidating texts come closest to the mark.
so, rather than keep reposting those two huge posts, i've decided to create a page for asimov:

this will link from the book review page, which is on the side:

i will intend to do something like that for each author, as i work through the list, although most will not require as much effort.
sleeping sucks :(.

i want this done first, so here i go.