Friday, December 6, 2013

on the inevitability of metalcore fans all eventually dying of catastrophic, stress-related heart attacks

all tension, no release.

studies will show that metalcore fans will have higher rates of stress related illnesses.


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well, they will, once the audience reaches heart attack age. which is probably not that far into the future.

well, if anybody does the studies, anyways. there's a research idea, at the least.

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hardcore is a type of music that developed in the late 70s and early 80s, mostly out of the punk movement. early hardcore bands included the likes of bad brains, the dead kennedys and black flag. it had some influence on thrash metal bands like slayer, which is what this sounds a lot more like, and a mild, roundabout influence on progressive metal bands like dream theatre, which provide the missing piece in the equation. yet, it lacks the political messaging that defines hardcore as a genre. i'm willing to concede that this isn't as bad as the modern "metalcore" that derives itself thematically from bands like limp bizkit, but it has essentially nothing in common with hardcore as a genre. labeling it as such is really highly disingenuous; thematically and conceptually this is metal, and not punk.

i stand by my hypothesis, however, and think you're providing more evidence for it than you realize.

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i'm actually a middle aged schizophrenic weirdo with a masters degree and a good sense of misanthropic humour, but that's a nice try.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20013543

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i'll still take beethoven over rossini, though, because it has that release. this doesn't. listening to this is like bottling your emotions up until you explode....

...and arguments otherwise are basically labeling that explosion as stress relief.

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i think release could refer equally well to an idea from music theory and a reduction of volume and/or intensity. what you're getting at is the opposite of release. it's not my fault, it's just what the word means. but i sort of explained that already, too - what you're doing is creating high amounts of tension, watching it explode and then calling it release, when what that is is either tension (relative to the first meaning) or implosion (relative to the second).

i also have to admit i don't hear a lot of chaos in this. it's very ordered.

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yet, none of these words express relative concepts. you're consequently spouting pretentious nonsense.

what you mean to say is that the record makes full use of the spectrum, which i can mildly agree with, and also that you enjoy the adrenaline rush and subsequent burnout.

the price of this disc is going to increase dramatically if heroin users find out it produces endorphins....

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converge is a type of progressive metal. i've used the term thrash in this thread and would continue to. they don't draw much influence from hardcore (which preceded them by a good ten years) and never did.

certainly, converge and dillinger are more similar to each other than either are to black flag or bad brains or minor threat or....